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Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:But it’s fine. You’re a chicken nuggets and pizza guy. Most of us like other stuff too, you stick with what makes you comfortable. I welcome conservative films. If they’re garbage like most of Clint Eastwood’s recent work, it’s because they’re not good movies, not because of their political agendas. Likewise, liberals can politicize whatever they want if the movie is good. Just make good movies, I don’t have to agree with the artist to appreciate it, I’m not that self-absorbed.
Yeah, weird how you only like Clint Eastwood when politics isn't the main focus. The difference is I can respect that. Leftists can't.
Why is it weird when those movies are clearly garbage? Make good movies. I don’t care about anything else. Eastwood has always been hit or miss and most of his recent films have fucking sucked. Focusing on the political implications of that when the movies are plainly bad just proves how far gone you are at this point.

Let’s face it, you are sensitive to your politics in a way that I’m just not. You let your politics define you as a person, so yeah you’re going to be upset when your beliefs get shit all over. All I care about is whether or not they get shit all over in a dramatically effective way.
No, you define others by their political point of view. As you've done with me in this thread. My favorite musician of all time is a liberal with many liberal songs. So that right there already proves that the idea that you have of me is garbage.
You need entertainment to “respect your politics” (lmfao) to enjoy it. Politics define you to your core and it makes you a less happy person as a result. It’s really pretty obvious.
In case you haven't noticed, one of the most prominent political figures in music over the last 40 years is a liberal who happens to be my favorite musician of all time. I'm doing a top 50 list of my favorite songs in the Music board, you should tune in.

You keep resorting to labeling me and how I view things, but you are way off. Not only are you not accepting of my beliefs, but you're not accepting my explanation of how I interpret them. You're literally telling me how I interpret things, and you couldn't be more wrong.
You’ve pretty much labeled yourself. You need entertainment to make your politics feel okay or you can’t handle it. I never suggested that, you did that all on your own.
I literally told you otherwise and you're ignoring it and labeling it how you want to label it.
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Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:But it’s fine. You’re a chicken nuggets and pizza guy. Most of us like other stuff too, you stick with what makes you comfortable. I welcome conservative films. If they’re garbage like most of Clint Eastwood’s recent work, it’s because they’re not good movies, not because of their political agendas. Likewise, liberals can politicize whatever they want if the movie is good. Just make good movies, I don’t have to agree with the artist to appreciate it, I’m not that self-absorbed.
Yeah, weird how you only like Clint Eastwood when politics isn't the main focus. The difference is I can respect that. Leftists can't.
Why is it weird when those movies are clearly garbage? Make good movies. I don’t care about anything else. Eastwood has always been hit or miss and most of his recent films have fucking sucked. Focusing on the political implications of that when the movies are plainly bad just proves how far gone you are at this point.

Let’s face it, you are sensitive to your politics in a way that I’m just not. You let your politics define you as a person, so yeah you’re going to be upset when your beliefs get shit all over. All I care about is whether or not they get shit all over in a dramatically effective way.
No, you define others by their political point of view. As you've done with me in this thread. My favorite musician of all time is a liberal with many liberal songs. So that right there already proves that the idea that you have of me is garbage.
You need entertainment to “respect your politics” (lmfao) to enjoy it. Politics define you to your core and it makes you a less happy person as a result. It’s really pretty obvious.
In case you haven't noticed, one of the most prominent political figures in music over the last 40 years is a liberal who happens to be my favorite musician of all time. I'm doing a top 50 list of my favorite songs in the Music board, you should tune in.

You keep resorting to labeling me and how I view things, but you are way off. Not only are you not accepting of my beliefs, but you're not accepting my explanation of how I interpret them. You're literally telling me how I interpret things, and you couldn't be more wrong.
You’ve pretty much labeled yourself. You need entertainment to make your politics feel okay or you can’t handle it. I never suggested that, you did that all on your own.
I literally told you otherwise and you're ignoring it and labeling it how you want to label it.
Did you say that before or after you demanded that entertainment respects your politics, something I wouldn’t care about in the slightest?
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Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:i've had a parent shout about the movie logan is shitty liberal trash because wolverine is "replaced by a girl character", as just one small example, so i get a little worked up about this. :P
I kinda liked Logan. The girl's voice was annoying as hell, she was kinda bitchy. I wasn't a fan.

Still a better character than Ghost from Ginger Snaps Unleashed. :p
why are you fighting dirty.... it's because she's in an american movie and ginger snaps is canadian, right? :P
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zombie wrote:i've had a parent shout about the movie logan is shitty liberal trash because wolverine is "replaced by a girl character", as just one small example, so i get a little worked up about this. :P
It’s nuts to me how any minority character doing anything substantial now becomes the “liberal agenda”, as if the proper course was to only have white men in those roles forever. When they aren’t, it’s “forced”.
agreed. it is nuts.
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Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:But it’s fine. You’re a chicken nuggets and pizza guy. Most of us like other stuff too, you stick with what makes you comfortable. I welcome conservative films. If they’re garbage like most of Clint Eastwood’s recent work, it’s because they’re not good movies, not because of their political agendas. Likewise, liberals can politicize whatever they want if the movie is good. Just make good movies, I don’t have to agree with the artist to appreciate it, I’m not that self-absorbed.
Yeah, weird how you only like Clint Eastwood when politics isn't the main focus. The difference is I can respect that. Leftists can't.
Why is it weird when those movies are clearly garbage? Make good movies. I don’t care about anything else. Eastwood has always been hit or miss and most of his recent films have fucking sucked. Focusing on the political implications of that when the movies are plainly bad just proves how far gone you are at this point.

Let’s face it, you are sensitive to your politics in a way that I’m just not. You let your politics define you as a person, so yeah you’re going to be upset when your beliefs get shit all over. All I care about is whether or not they get shit all over in a dramatically effective way.
No, you define others by their political point of view. As you've done with me in this thread. My favorite musician of all time is a liberal with many liberal songs. So that right there already proves that the idea that you have of me is garbage.
You need entertainment to “respect your politics” (lmfao) to enjoy it. Politics define you to your core and it makes you a less happy person as a result. It’s really pretty obvious.
In case you haven't noticed, one of the most prominent political figures in music over the last 40 years is a liberal who happens to be my favorite musician of all time. I'm doing a top 50 list of my favorite songs in the Music board, you should tune in.

You keep resorting to labeling me and how I view things, but you are way off. Not only are you not accepting of my beliefs, but you're not accepting my explanation of how I interpret them. You're literally telling me how I interpret things, and you couldn't be more wrong.
You’ve pretty much labeled yourself. You need entertainment to make your politics feel okay or you can’t handle it. I never suggested that, you did that all on your own.
I literally told you otherwise and you're ignoring it and labeling it how you want to label it.
Did you say that before or after you demanded that entertainment respects your politics, something I wouldn’t care about in the slightest?
Yes, and I used Supergirl as the primary example. And used Springsteen as another example of an opposing viewpoint who is my all time favorite musician. Which you've ignored four times and counting now.

I think you're projecting ADD culture in this thread, right now...
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zombie wrote:last drive-in was up on amazon, last monday. why aren't the new films up, yet, today!? what gives.... :P
ugh...
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Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:But it’s fine. You’re a chicken nuggets and pizza guy. Most of us like other stuff too, you stick with what makes you comfortable. I welcome conservative films. If they’re garbage like most of Clint Eastwood’s recent work, it’s because they’re not good movies, not because of their political agendas. Likewise, liberals can politicize whatever they want if the movie is good. Just make good movies, I don’t have to agree with the artist to appreciate it, I’m not that self-absorbed.
Yeah, weird how you only like Clint Eastwood when politics isn't the main focus. The difference is I can respect that. Leftists can't.
Why is it weird when those movies are clearly garbage? Make good movies. I don’t care about anything else. Eastwood has always been hit or miss and most of his recent films have fucking sucked. Focusing on the political implications of that when the movies are plainly bad just proves how far gone you are at this point.

Let’s face it, you are sensitive to your politics in a way that I’m just not. You let your politics define you as a person, so yeah you’re going to be upset when your beliefs get shit all over. All I care about is whether or not they get shit all over in a dramatically effective way.
No, you define others by their political point of view. As you've done with me in this thread. My favorite musician of all time is a liberal with many liberal songs. So that right there already proves that the idea that you have of me is garbage.
You need entertainment to “respect your politics” (lmfao) to enjoy it. Politics define you to your core and it makes you a less happy person as a result. It’s really pretty obvious.
In case you haven't noticed, one of the most prominent political figures in music over the last 40 years is a liberal who happens to be my favorite musician of all time. I'm doing a top 50 list of my favorite songs in the Music board, you should tune in.

You keep resorting to labeling me and how I view things, but you are way off. Not only are you not accepting of my beliefs, but you're not accepting my explanation of how I interpret them. You're literally telling me how I interpret things, and you couldn't be more wrong.
You’ve pretty much labeled yourself. You need entertainment to make your politics feel okay or you can’t handle it. I never suggested that, you did that all on your own.
I literally told you otherwise and you're ignoring it and labeling it how you want to label it.
Did you say that before or after you demanded that entertainment respects your politics, something I wouldn’t care about in the slightest?
Yes, and I used Supergirl as the primary example. And used Springsteen as another example of an opposing viewpoint who is my all time favorite musician. Which you've ignored four times and counting now.

I think you're projecting ADD culture in this thread, right now...
Why would you care at all how a movie feels about your politics? Why would it need to “respect your politics”? It’s a movie, not rule of law. Make this make sense to me.
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zombie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
zombie wrote:i've had a parent shout about the movie logan is shitty liberal trash because wolverine is "replaced by a girl character", as just one small example, so i get a little worked up about this. :P
It’s nuts to me how any minority character doing anything substantial now becomes the “liberal agenda”, as if the proper course was to only have white men in those roles forever. When they aren’t, it’s “forced”.
agreed. it is nuts.
Where the hell does this exist?
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Headhunter wrote:
zombie wrote:i've had a parent shout about the movie logan is shitty liberal trash because wolverine is "replaced by a girl character", as just one small example, so i get a little worked up about this. :P
It’s nuts to me how any minority character doing anything substantial now becomes the “liberal agenda”, as if the proper course was to only have white men in those roles forever. When they aren’t, it’s “forced”.
this.

I can see why Jason stopped reading that draft of my book. The MC is a biracial female :P
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Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
zombie wrote:i've had a parent shout about the movie logan is shitty liberal trash because wolverine is "replaced by a girl character", as just one small example, so i get a little worked up about this. :P
It’s nuts to me how any minority character doing anything substantial now becomes the “liberal agenda”, as if the proper course was to only have white men in those roles forever. When they aren’t, it’s “forced”.
agreed. it is nuts.
Where the hell does this exist?
Every corner of the internet.
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Headhunter wrote: Why would you care at all how a movie feels about your politics? Why would it need to “respect your politics”? It’s a movie, not rule of law. Make this make sense to me.
Stop addressing it from a place of lecture and address it like a normal human being in a civilized world? Whining about white men does nothing for your argument and makes you sound like a racist, petulant child.
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Headhunter wrote:
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Reign in Blood wrote:Wow, Rise is that shitty.
Not really, no.
I thought it leaned into being dumb fun pretty well.
Yeah. I mean, the script is a rushed mess to try to appease haters of Last Jedi (which I still really like, even though I want to fast forward the Casino stuff), but other than that it's a fun pulpy ride.
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DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
zombie wrote:i've had a parent shout about the movie logan is shitty liberal trash because wolverine is "replaced by a girl character", as just one small example, so i get a little worked up about this. :P
It’s nuts to me how any minority character doing anything substantial now becomes the “liberal agenda”, as if the proper course was to only have white men in those roles forever. When they aren’t, it’s “forced”.
this.

I can see why Jason stopped reading that draft of my book. The MC is a biracial female :P
Oy...
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Jason wrote:
DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
zombie wrote:i've had a parent shout about the movie logan is shitty liberal trash because wolverine is "replaced by a girl character", as just one small example, so i get a little worked up about this. :P
It’s nuts to me how any minority character doing anything substantial now becomes the “liberal agenda”, as if the proper course was to only have white men in those roles forever. When they aren’t, it’s “forced”.
this.

I can see why Jason stopped reading that draft of my book. The MC is a biracial female :P
Oy...
T'was a tease lol
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Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote: Why would you care at all how a movie feels about your politics? Why would it need to “respect your politics”? It’s a movie, not rule of law. Make this make sense to me.
Stop addressing it from a place of lecture and address it like a normal human being in a civilized world? Whining about white men does nothing for your argument and makes you sound like a racist, petulant child.
Who cares how it’s addressed as long as it fits the narrative of the film?

Why does a movie need to pretend to be a person shooting the shit with you? You need your hand held too?
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Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote: Why would you care at all how a movie feels about your politics? Why would it need to “respect your politics”? It’s a movie, not rule of law. Make this make sense to me.
Stop addressing it from a place of lecture and address it like a normal human being in a civilized world? Whining about white men does nothing for your argument and makes you sound like a racist, petulant child.
Who cares how it’s addressed as long as it fits the narrative of the film?

Why does a movie need to pretend to be a person shooting the shit with you? You need your hand held too?
If the narrative of the film is being a whiny douchebag, then maybe I'm not interested in watching a film about whiny douchebags?
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DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
Reign in Blood wrote:Wow, Rise is that shitty.
Not really, no.
I thought it leaned into being dumb fun pretty well.
Yeah. I mean, the script is a rushed mess to try to appease haters of Last Jedi (which I still really like, even though I want to fast forward the Casino stuff), but other than that it's a fun pulpy ride.
There were a few laughable moments and the casino was a cool concept forced into the film nonsensically, but apart from that I also dug The Last Jedi.
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Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote: Why would you care at all how a movie feels about your politics? Why would it need to “respect your politics”? It’s a movie, not rule of law. Make this make sense to me.
Stop addressing it from a place of lecture and address it like a normal human being in a civilized world? Whining about white men does nothing for your argument and makes you sound like a racist, petulant child.
Who cares how it’s addressed as long as it fits the narrative of the film?

Why does a movie need to pretend to be a person shooting the shit with you? You need your hand held too?
If the narrative of the film is being a whiny douchebag, then maybe I'm not interested in watching a film about whiny douchebags?
It probably feels that way because it’s pushing back on your beliefs which are more important to you than just enjoying yourself. Older movies were significantly more preachy in the way they pushed their liberal politics, by the way. There was no subtlety and it would end with the smart, moral force giving some lecture at the end. This was pretty commonplace.
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Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote: Why would you care at all how a movie feels about your politics? Why would it need to “respect your politics”? It’s a movie, not rule of law. Make this make sense to me.
Stop addressing it from a place of lecture and address it like a normal human being in a civilized world? Whining about white men does nothing for your argument and makes you sound like a racist, petulant child.
Who cares how it’s addressed as long as it fits the narrative of the film?

Why does a movie need to pretend to be a person shooting the shit with you? You need your hand held too?
If the narrative of the film is being a whiny douchebag, then maybe I'm not interested in watching a film about whiny douchebags?
It probably feels that way because it’s pushing back on your beliefs which are more important to you than just enjoying yourself. Older movies were significantly more preachy in the way they pushed their liberal politics, by the way. There was no subtlety and it would end with the smart, moral force giving some lecture at the end. This is pretty commonplace.
Address my Bruce Springsteen comments.
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