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Jason wrote:
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zombie wrote:i still say you can enjoy a film that has some sort of message. political, social, ideological. however you want to label it. it's still a message. and we've all enjoyed plenty that do. i hope that you can still find enough today, to enjoy. cause i still am. :P
And you can enjoy movies without ever caring about any of that stuff. If you’re politically charged 24/7, it’s going to make anything harder to enjoy because politics is inherently negative.
Correct. Let's not inject them in the vast majority of film, anymore.
Nope, that’s on you and your inability to compartmentalize. Movies project liberal messaging, always have. If you can’t handle it, your personal investment in politics is too high.
So enjoy the woke movies or fuck off.

See the issue here?
The issue here is you’re so wrapped up in your politics, you can’t enjoy movies anymore. That’s a you problem.
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Some people must have been sick of the racial agenda in 50s-60s films. Hollywood was very much shoving their politics down people’s throats. It’s not seen as political today because “racism is bad” is now normalized to the point of consensus agreement.

No issue here.
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The problem with movies today is not just the bias, but the "I'm right, you're wrong" attitude. And the shaming of people who disagree with you. Adults with five year old brains are making movies.

Remember that video I shared of that feminist in the politics board? She was a journalist who admitted she was out to get men. When she met with men for her documentary... men who disagreed with her ideology, she listened. And it changed the way she told the story. She told it from an honest perspective and the critics slammed her for "humanizing" men who disagree with her. That's the result of leftist politics in film, today. If you ain't woke, you're getting shit on.

It's a disgusting agenda. Maybe leftists don't see it because it’s more likely that movies reflecting their disgusting agenda would not be thought of as political at all, they merely subscribe to what they deem obvious reality.
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Oliver Stone probably pissed a lot of people off too. Irrelevant today because nobody defends the Vietnam War anymore.
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Jason wrote:The problem with movies today is not just the bias, but the "I'm right, you're wrong" attitude. And the shaming of people who disagree with you. Adults with five year old brains are making movies.

Remember that video I shared of that feminist in the politics board? She was a journalist who admitted she was out to get men. When she met with men for her documentary... men who disagreed with her ideology, she listened. And it changed the way she told the story. She told it from an honest perspective and the critics slammed her for "humanizing" men who disagree with her. That's the result of leftist politics in film, today. If you ain't woke, you're getting shit on.

It's a disgusting agenda. Maybe leftists don't see it because it’s more likely that movies reflecting their disgusting agenda would not be thought of as political at all, they merely subscribe to what they deem obvious reality.
“I’m right, you’re wrong” soapbox messaging has always existed in film. Not new.
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Jason wrote:The problem with movies today is not just the bias, but the "I'm right, you're wrong" attitude. And the shaming of people who disagree with you. Adults with five year old brains are making movies.

Remember that video I shared of that feminist in the politics board? She was a journalist who admitted she was out to get men. When she met with men for her documentary... men who disagreed with her ideology, she listened. And it changed the way she told the story. She told it from an honest perspective and the critics slammed her for "humanizing" men who disagree with her. That's the result of leftist politics in film, today. If you ain't woke, you're getting shit on.

It's a disgusting agenda. Maybe leftists don't see it because it’s more likely that movies reflecting their disgusting agenda would not be thought of as political at all, they merely subscribe to what they deem obvious reality.
“I’m right, you’re wrong” soapbox messaging has always existed in film. Not new.
Not to the extent we see today. You lose your career if you aren't woke. You used to be able to make movies with a political agenda while still respecting opposing ideologies. Opposing ideologies are silenced, today.
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Jason wrote:
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Jason wrote:The problem with movies today is not just the bias, but the "I'm right, you're wrong" attitude. And the shaming of people who disagree with you. Adults with five year old brains are making movies.

Remember that video I shared of that feminist in the politics board? She was a journalist who admitted she was out to get men. When she met with men for her documentary... men who disagreed with her ideology, she listened. And it changed the way she told the story. She told it from an honest perspective and the critics slammed her for "humanizing" men who disagree with her. That's the result of leftist politics in film, today. If you ain't woke, you're getting shit on.

It's a disgusting agenda. Maybe leftists don't see it because it’s more likely that movies reflecting their disgusting agenda would not be thought of as political at all, they merely subscribe to what they deem obvious reality.
“I’m right, you’re wrong” soapbox messaging has always existed in film. Not new.
Not to the extent we see today. You lose your career if you aren't woke. You could make movies with a political agenda while still respecting opposing ideologies. Opposing ideologies are silenced, today.
Very over dramatic but okay. Maybe just never watch movies, TV or play video games or read books. You can shut yourself off from anything you don’t like if that’s the only way you can handle shit. I’m just going to keep enjoying things.
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Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:The problem with movies today is not just the bias, but the "I'm right, you're wrong" attitude. And the shaming of people who disagree with you. Adults with five year old brains are making movies.

Remember that video I shared of that feminist in the politics board? She was a journalist who admitted she was out to get men. When she met with men for her documentary... men who disagreed with her ideology, she listened. And it changed the way she told the story. She told it from an honest perspective and the critics slammed her for "humanizing" men who disagree with her. That's the result of leftist politics in film, today. If you ain't woke, you're getting shit on.

It's a disgusting agenda. Maybe leftists don't see it because it’s more likely that movies reflecting their disgusting agenda would not be thought of as political at all, they merely subscribe to what they deem obvious reality.
“I’m right, you’re wrong” soapbox messaging has always existed in film. Not new.
Not to the extent we see today. You lose your career if you aren't woke. You could make movies with a political agenda while still respecting opposing ideologies. Opposing ideologies are silenced, today.
Very over dramatic but okay. Maybe just never watch movies, TV or play video games or read books. You can shut yourself off from anything you don’t like if that’s the only way you can handle shit. I’m just going to keep enjoying things.
It's extremely overdramatic, I agree. You can follow along blindly and let the blind lead you to wherever they wanna take you. I choose to enjoy things that have no agenda made from people who respect opposing ideologies. But I guess to liberals, that's just Conservative wrongthink.
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Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:The problem with movies today is not just the bias, but the "I'm right, you're wrong" attitude. And the shaming of people who disagree with you. Adults with five year old brains are making movies.

Remember that video I shared of that feminist in the politics board? She was a journalist who admitted she was out to get men. When she met with men for her documentary... men who disagreed with her ideology, she listened. And it changed the way she told the story. She told it from an honest perspective and the critics slammed her for "humanizing" men who disagree with her. That's the result of leftist politics in film, today. If you ain't woke, you're getting shit on.

It's a disgusting agenda. Maybe leftists don't see it because it’s more likely that movies reflecting their disgusting agenda would not be thought of as political at all, they merely subscribe to what they deem obvious reality.
“I’m right, you’re wrong” soapbox messaging has always existed in film. Not new.
Not to the extent we see today. You lose your career if you aren't woke. You could make movies with a political agenda while still respecting opposing ideologies. Opposing ideologies are silenced, today.
Very over dramatic but okay. Maybe just never watch movies, TV or play video games or read books. You can shut yourself off from anything you don’t like if that’s the only way you can handle shit. I’m just going to keep enjoying things.
It's extremely overdramatic, I agree. You can follow along blindly and let the blind lead you to wherever they wanna take you. I choose to enjoy things that have no agenda made from people who respect opposing ideologies. But I guess to liberals, that's just Conservative wrongthink.
I mean it doesn’t really sound like you enjoy much of anything due to your politics, but you obviously have the choice of limiting your entertainment palette for your own comfort, like a kid who can only eat chicken nuggets and pizza.
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Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:The problem with movies today is not just the bias, but the "I'm right, you're wrong" attitude. And the shaming of people who disagree with you. Adults with five year old brains are making movies.

Remember that video I shared of that feminist in the politics board? She was a journalist who admitted she was out to get men. When she met with men for her documentary... men who disagreed with her ideology, she listened. And it changed the way she told the story. She told it from an honest perspective and the critics slammed her for "humanizing" men who disagree with her. That's the result of leftist politics in film, today. If you ain't woke, you're getting shit on.

It's a disgusting agenda. Maybe leftists don't see it because it’s more likely that movies reflecting their disgusting agenda would not be thought of as political at all, they merely subscribe to what they deem obvious reality.
“I’m right, you’re wrong” soapbox messaging has always existed in film. Not new.
Not to the extent we see today. You lose your career if you aren't woke. You could make movies with a political agenda while still respecting opposing ideologies. Opposing ideologies are silenced, today.
Very over dramatic but okay. Maybe just never watch movies, TV or play video games or read books. You can shut yourself off from anything you don’t like if that’s the only way you can handle shit. I’m just going to keep enjoying things.
It's extremely overdramatic, I agree. You can follow along blindly and let the blind lead you to wherever they wanna take you. I choose to enjoy things that have no agenda made from people who respect opposing ideologies. But I guess to liberals, that's just Conservative wrongthink.
I mean it doesn’t really sound like you enjoy much of anything due to your politics, but you obviously have the choice of limiting your entertainment palette for your own comfort, like a kid who can only eat chicken nuggets and pizza.
Enjoy much of anything? You should see my enormous movie collection. :D
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Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:The problem with movies today is not just the bias, but the "I'm right, you're wrong" attitude. And the shaming of people who disagree with you. Adults with five year old brains are making movies.

Remember that video I shared of that feminist in the politics board? She was a journalist who admitted she was out to get men. When she met with men for her documentary... men who disagreed with her ideology, she listened. And it changed the way she told the story. She told it from an honest perspective and the critics slammed her for "humanizing" men who disagree with her. That's the result of leftist politics in film, today. If you ain't woke, you're getting shit on.

It's a disgusting agenda. Maybe leftists don't see it because it’s more likely that movies reflecting their disgusting agenda would not be thought of as political at all, they merely subscribe to what they deem obvious reality.
“I’m right, you’re wrong” soapbox messaging has always existed in film. Not new.
Not to the extent we see today. You lose your career if you aren't woke. You could make movies with a political agenda while still respecting opposing ideologies. Opposing ideologies are silenced, today.
Very over dramatic but okay. Maybe just never watch movies, TV or play video games or read books. You can shut yourself off from anything you don’t like if that’s the only way you can handle shit. I’m just going to keep enjoying things.
It's extremely overdramatic, I agree. You can follow along blindly and let the blind lead you to wherever they wanna take you. I choose to enjoy things that have no agenda made from people who respect opposing ideologies. But I guess to liberals, that's just Conservative wrongthink.
I mean it doesn’t really sound like you enjoy much of anything due to your politics, but you obviously have the choice of limiting your entertainment palette for your own comfort, like a kid who can only eat chicken nuggets and pizza.
Enjoy much of anything? You should see my enormous movie collection. :D
Too bad you didn’t get to see most of them in the time they were made so you could complain about their politics.

This is similar to your whole thing with cancel culture. The problems only exist when you’re politically active enough to acknowledge their existence. At some point you’ll definitely burn yourself out and free your mind to liking things again.
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Right, because it wasn't about anything political.
alice literally yells at a roomful of her friends and relatives, that she's keeping the baby, if i'm recalling it right.

so i have to ask when are themes in a movie political to you? give me some examples of films that apply? give me five to ten, that you feel are political?
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Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:The problem with movies today is not just the bias, but the "I'm right, you're wrong" attitude. And the shaming of people who disagree with you. Adults with five year old brains are making movies.

Remember that video I shared of that feminist in the politics board? She was a journalist who admitted she was out to get men. When she met with men for her documentary... men who disagreed with her ideology, she listened. And it changed the way she told the story. She told it from an honest perspective and the critics slammed her for "humanizing" men who disagree with her. That's the result of leftist politics in film, today. If you ain't woke, you're getting shit on.

It's a disgusting agenda. Maybe leftists don't see it because it’s more likely that movies reflecting their disgusting agenda would not be thought of as political at all, they merely subscribe to what they deem obvious reality.
“I’m right, you’re wrong” soapbox messaging has always existed in film. Not new.
Not to the extent we see today. You lose your career if you aren't woke. You could make movies with a political agenda while still respecting opposing ideologies. Opposing ideologies are silenced, today.
Very over dramatic but okay. Maybe just never watch movies, TV or play video games or read books. You can shut yourself off from anything you don’t like if that’s the only way you can handle shit. I’m just going to keep enjoying things.
It's extremely overdramatic, I agree. You can follow along blindly and let the blind lead you to wherever they wanna take you. I choose to enjoy things that have no agenda made from people who respect opposing ideologies. But I guess to liberals, that's just Conservative wrongthink.
I mean it doesn’t really sound like you enjoy much of anything due to your politics, but you obviously have the choice of limiting your entertainment palette for your own comfort, like a kid who can only eat chicken nuggets and pizza.
Enjoy much of anything? You should see my enormous movie collection. :D
Too bad you didn’t get to see most of them in the time they were made so you could complain about their politics.

This is similar to your whole thing with cancel culture. The problems only exist when you’re politically active enough to acknowledge their existence. At some point you’ll definitely burn yourself out and free your mind to liking things again.
Your theory is nonsense. You can see a shift in political climate between Iron Man in 2008 to Captain Marvel in 2018 or whatever year it came out. Cancel/woke culture has no respect for opposing ideologies. You can let them blindly lead you down a rabbit hole of hatred and tranny-fucking, I'll wait for it to die and enjoy the fewer gems that still do come out today, just not as often.

Cancel/woke culture has peaked, and is on track to die in 2022 as I predicted.
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Right, because it wasn't about anything political.
alice literally yells at a roomful of her friends and relatives, that she's keeping the baby, if i'm recalling it right.

so i have to ask when are themes in a movie political to you? give me some examples of films that apply? give me five to ten, that you feel are political?
I guess that's true. But abortion wasn't the central theme of the movie, is what I'm getting at. And that movie sucked anyway. :p
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Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Jason wrote:The problem with movies today is not just the bias, but the "I'm right, you're wrong" attitude. And the shaming of people who disagree with you. Adults with five year old brains are making movies.

Remember that video I shared of that feminist in the politics board? She was a journalist who admitted she was out to get men. When she met with men for her documentary... men who disagreed with her ideology, she listened. And it changed the way she told the story. She told it from an honest perspective and the critics slammed her for "humanizing" men who disagree with her. That's the result of leftist politics in film, today. If you ain't woke, you're getting shit on.

It's a disgusting agenda. Maybe leftists don't see it because it’s more likely that movies reflecting their disgusting agenda would not be thought of as political at all, they merely subscribe to what they deem obvious reality.
“I’m right, you’re wrong” soapbox messaging has always existed in film. Not new.
Not to the extent we see today. You lose your career if you aren't woke. You could make movies with a political agenda while still respecting opposing ideologies. Opposing ideologies are silenced, today.
Very over dramatic but okay. Maybe just never watch movies, TV or play video games or read books. You can shut yourself off from anything you don’t like if that’s the only way you can handle shit. I’m just going to keep enjoying things.
It's extremely overdramatic, I agree. You can follow along blindly and let the blind lead you to wherever they wanna take you. I choose to enjoy things that have no agenda made from people who respect opposing ideologies. But I guess to liberals, that's just Conservative wrongthink.
I mean it doesn’t really sound like you enjoy much of anything due to your politics, but you obviously have the choice of limiting your entertainment palette for your own comfort, like a kid who can only eat chicken nuggets and pizza.
Enjoy much of anything? You should see my enormous movie collection. :D
Too bad you didn’t get to see most of them in the time they were made so you could complain about their politics.

This is similar to your whole thing with cancel culture. The problems only exist when you’re politically active enough to acknowledge their existence. At some point you’ll definitely burn yourself out and free your mind to liking things again.
Your theory is nonsense. You can see a shift in political climate between Iron Man in 2008 to Captain Marvel in 2018 or whatever year it came out. Cancel/woke culture has no respect for opposing ideologies. You can let them blindly lead you down a rabbit hole of hatred and tranny-fucking, I'll wait for it to die and enjoy the fewer gems that still do come out today, just not as often.

Cancel/woke culture has peaked, and is on track to die in 2022 as I predicted.
Sure it is. You can let your politics drive you to eating only pizza and chicken nuggets if you want but it’s your choice. The rest of us can enjoy ourselves some Chinese, Vietnamese, Greek etc. and not be constantly paranoid about nonsense.
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Headhunter wrote: Sure it is. You can let your politics drive you to eating only pizza and chicken nuggets if you want but it’s your choice. The rest of us can enjoy ourselves some Chinese, Vietnamese, Greek etc. and not be constantly paranoid about nonsense.
I own thousands upon thousands of movies and TV shows. So your post makes no sense. I'm not gonna watch shit like this, but you can...

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I was never bothered by the flag waving propagandized nature of 80s movies as it relates to politics. I think it’s largely bullshit, but that’s okay. I actually appreciate them as historical artifacts and what they say about that time in America.

I’m not afraid of movies projecting ideas that push back on my beliefs. Because I’m a dynamic human being, not a political bumper sticker.
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Headhunter wrote: Sure it is. You can let your politics drive you to eating only pizza and chicken nuggets if you want but it’s your choice. The rest of us can enjoy ourselves some Chinese, Vietnamese, Greek etc. and not be constantly paranoid about nonsense.
I own thousands upon thousands of movies and TV shows. So your post makes no sense. I'm not gonna watch shit like this, but you can...

It makes no sense because politics have only been a part of your identity for 10-15 years. With your current mindset you would have rejected movies you love in the time they were made because of the way they push back on your politics. That context is lost over time but it was very much real for the people who experienced it.
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But it’s fine. You’re a chicken nuggets and pizza guy. Most of us like other stuff too, you stick with what makes you comfortable. I welcome conservative films. If they’re garbage like most of Clint Eastwood’s recent work, it’s because they’re not good movies, not because of their political agendas. Likewise, liberals can politicize whatever they want if the movie is good. Just make good movies, I don’t have to agree with the artist to appreciate it, I’m not that self-absorbed.
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I don't define my identity with my political beliefs.

How many times do I have to tell you that I can appreciate any movie that at least has a respect for opposing ideologies. Even in music, my all time favorite musician is a liberal, and lots of his music have political messages and I still love those songs, even if I don't agree with them, or if they're applied differently today. That hilarious cringe montage I posted is the perfect example of shit that exists that I want no part of. You can let it turn you into a walking zombie for woke culture if you want, that's on you. I'll enjoy anything with an agenda that has a respect for differing beliefs. A ton of shit that came out in the last 5-10 years is angry leftist nonsense that I want no part of.

You gonna tell me the creators of Supergirl have any respect for opposing ideas? Why give them the time of day? I don't have that much time to waste in my life.
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