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Posted: Sun May 6th, 2012 07:58 pm |
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To an extent he controlled it, but the fact that he was off on some remote location when Widow found him makes me think that he's not 100% in control, or at least not willing to go Metro to risk more lives and property damage. Even Widow wasn't sure and had back up.
I kinda wish Widow would've "convinced" him by unzipping her top a bit.  That would've convinced me.
As for New Avengers, since we're going Thanos, I fully expect Captain Marvel to be some part of it. I even liked the Sanctuary type ship of Thano's similar to the comic version.
I kept hearing internet BS that the Red Skull was with Thanos in the end scene, but amuse it was just that, BS.
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Posted: Sun May 6th, 2012 08:01 pm |
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dave626 wrote:
To an extent he controlled it, but the fact that he was off on some remote location when Widow found him makes me think that he's not 100% in control, or at least not willing to go Metro to risk more lives and property damage. Even Widow wasn't sure and had back up.
I think he was in a remote location because he was in hiding from people that wanted to put him in a cage and study him, a reference he alluded to during his talk with Widow.
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Posted: Sun May 6th, 2012 08:22 pm |
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That too, but also "the last time I was in NYC I broke it". So he wasn't looking forward to that either. I think it was a little of both control and not wanting to take any chances.
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Posted: Sun May 6th, 2012 08:35 pm |
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dave626 wrote:
That too, but also "the last time I was in NYC I broke it". So he wasn't looking forward to that either. I think it was a little of both control and not wanting to take any chances.
Very possible, but I think that was more of a nod from Whedon to the last film with Norton.
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Posted: Sun May 6th, 2012 08:55 pm |
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Crazy Ralph wrote: DancesWithWerewolves wrote: Crazy Ralph wrote: KennyThaKilla wrote: DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
Jason wrote: DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
Mine are Hulk, then Hawkeye at a distant second. But Hulk is kinda my 2nd fave marvel character (behind Wolverine) so I'm bias
To clarify, I'm going by their films in general, not just Avengers.
Dug the Hulk in this one. But why was he trying to kill Natasha?
He was out of control. He's angry all the time but has it under control, hence the 3rd act, but on the shield craft, he lost his grip so he was just raging. That's how I saw it anyway.
What I got from that was that Loki was making them turn on one another with his scepter, hence the scene where Banner is holding it and doesn't even realize it. I think when he Hulked-out, he was still under the influence of the scepter.
Bingo.
According to the faq, it can be viewed as one or the other, like Loki's fueling the scene of arguing, but he still changed due to the fall, etc. Either way, he was not in control.
I think that Loki's mindgames got him all worked up to begin with... he was all set to Hulk out before being momentarily distracted by the computer pinpointing where the cosmic cube was, and right after that was the explosion . Not to mention, Natasha lied to him earlier in the movie about "just you and me" ---
I'll concede to this: Loki is behind the out-of-control change, weather the mind games part succeeded (because to me it looked like he broke the hold anyway when he noticed the scepter in his hands) or the fact that Loki had the possessed Hawkeye blow up part of the aircraft causing the explosion/fall
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Posted: Sun May 6th, 2012 08:56 pm |
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KennyThaKilla wrote: dave626 wrote:
That too, but also "the last time I was in NYC I broke it". So he wasn't looking forward to that either. I think it was a little of both control and not wanting to take any chances.
Very possible, but I think that was more of a nod from Whedon to the last film with Norton.
That's exactly what that was 
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Posted: Sun May 6th, 2012 08:58 pm |
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Crazy Ralph wrote: KennyThaKilla wrote: DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
KennyThaKilla wrote: DancesWithWerewolves wrote:
Crazy Ralph wrote: So what are people's thoughts on Ruffalo as Banner?
I liked him. I thought I would already, but I'm definitely comfortable with him. I still prefer Norton, but Ruffalo had a nice nervous-ness about him.
I liked the initial scene between Banner and Black Widow. Ruffalo made it real easy to forget about Norton. Good thing, since he's signed up for six more Marvel movies. 
Is he? Marvel sounded unsure about more Hulk movies. Great.
That's the part that's unclear. Marvel claims they don't have any Hulk films lines up in the near future. That means that his participation must be in a co-starring capacity like Avengers.
I think Whedon should do the next Hulk movie before Avengers 2.
Would be cool.
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Posted: Sun May 6th, 2012 11:34 pm |
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Crazy Ralph wrote: I'm actually concerned about a potential sequel though... I mean, what works in comics doesn't always work for films, and if they try to cram in more heroes and expand the team, it's just going to give less screen time for everyone besides the big three. As much as I would love to see Pym and Wasp, I hope they don't go overboard with introducing every person who has been a member of the team from the comics. I'd much prefer that they stick with the same team and expand upon the relationships and comradery --- it seemed that by the end, these people started having a mutual respect for each other and I think they should expand that for the next one.
Wolverine and Luke Cage I'd like to see and I'm pretty sure Spiderman might join.
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Posted: Sun May 6th, 2012 11:35 pm |
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Daebo wrote: Crazy Ralph wrote: I'm actually concerned about a potential sequel though... I mean, what works in comics doesn't always work for films, and if they try to cram in more heroes and expand the team, it's just going to give less screen time for everyone besides the big three. As much as I would love to see Pym and Wasp, I hope they don't go overboard with introducing every person who has been a member of the team from the comics. I'd much prefer that they stick with the same team and expand upon the relationships and comradery --- it seemed that by the end, these people started having a mutual respect for each other and I think they should expand that for the next one.
Wolverine and Luke Cage I'd like to see and I'm pretty sure Spiderman might join.
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Posted: Sun May 6th, 2012 11:36 pm |
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dave626 wrote: Every thing about this movie was excellent. I'm going to see it again next Sun. w/my brother's family and plan on seeing it w/my sister's family if they have time.
I too am seeing for a 3rd time next sunday.
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Posted: Sun May 6th, 2012 11:37 pm |
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KennyThaKilla wrote: dave626 wrote:
Even in the last film he wasn't "completely" in control.
The last scene in the movie kinda hints that he finally got a handle on it, which he further demonstrates with his "I'm always angry" moment in this film.
I hope he doesn't have too much of a handle on it, that would make the next Hulk movie not as fun.
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Posted: Sun May 6th, 2012 11:38 pm |
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Crazy Ralph wrote: Daebo wrote: Crazy Ralph wrote: I'm actually concerned about a potential sequel though... I mean, what works in comics doesn't always work for films, and if they try to cram in more heroes and expand the team, it's just going to give less screen time for everyone besides the big three. As much as I would love to see Pym and Wasp, I hope they don't go overboard with introducing every person who has been a member of the team from the comics. I'd much prefer that they stick with the same team and expand upon the relationships and comradery --- it seemed that by the end, these people started having a mutual respect for each other and I think they should expand that for the next one.
Wolverine and Luke Cage I'd like to see and I'm pretty sure Spiderman might join.
Go on....
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Posted: Sun May 6th, 2012 11:43 pm |
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Daebo wrote: Crazy Ralph wrote: Daebo wrote: Crazy Ralph wrote: I'm actually concerned about a potential sequel though... I mean, what works in comics doesn't always work for films, and if they try to cram in more heroes and expand the team, it's just going to give less screen time for everyone besides the big three. As much as I would love to see Pym and Wasp, I hope they don't go overboard with introducing every person who has been a member of the team from the comics. I'd much prefer that they stick with the same team and expand upon the relationships and comradery --- it seemed that by the end, these people started having a mutual respect for each other and I think they should expand that for the next one.
Wolverine and Luke Cage I'd like to see and I'm pretty sure Spiderman might join.
Go on....
lol, just a personal thing of mine.... can't really stand the 'New Avengers' line up... I prefer Spider-Man as a solo hero, and I'm starting to hate how Wolverine is almost in everything; he's got his own series, the multiple X-Men titles, and New Avengers (Just a note though... I'm going by a few years ago... haven't picked up a comic from a store in a long time) and I've never been able to find Luke Cage interesting.
Not saying your opinion is wrong
It's just personal.
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Daebo wrote: Crazy Ralph wrote: I'm actually concerned about a potential sequel though... I mean, what works in comics doesn't always work for films, and if they try to cram in more heroes and expand the team, it's just going to give less screen time for everyone besides the big three. As much as I would love to see Pym and Wasp, I hope they don't go overboard with introducing every person who has been a member of the team from the comics. I'd much prefer that they stick with the same team and expand upon the relationships and comradery --- it seemed that by the end, these people started having a mutual respect for each other and I think they should expand that for the next one.
Wolverine and Luke Cage I'd like to see and I'm pretty sure Spiderman might join.
If Marvel gets the rights back, that would be awesome. I still picture Spiderman eating popcorn watching Hulk and Abomination go at it in the first time Hulk smashes Harlem
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Posted: Sun May 6th, 2012 11:44 pm |
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Daebo wrote: KennyThaKilla wrote: dave626 wrote:
Even in the last film he wasn't "completely" in control.
The last scene in the movie kinda hints that he finally got a handle on it, which he further demonstrates with his "I'm always angry" moment in this film.
I hope he doesn't have too much of a handle on it, that would make the next Hulk movie not as fun.
I like to think his change on the aircraft was to show he doesn't always have a handle on it.
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Posted: Sun May 6th, 2012 11:46 pm |
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DancesWithWerewolves wrote: Daebo wrote: Crazy Ralph wrote: I'm actually concerned about a potential sequel though... I mean, what works in comics doesn't always work for films, and if they try to cram in more heroes and expand the team, it's just going to give less screen time for everyone besides the big three. As much as I would love to see Pym and Wasp, I hope they don't go overboard with introducing every person who has been a member of the team from the comics. I'd much prefer that they stick with the same team and expand upon the relationships and comradery --- it seemed that by the end, these people started having a mutual respect for each other and I think they should expand that for the next one.
Wolverine and Luke Cage I'd like to see and I'm pretty sure Spiderman might join.
If Marvel gets the rights back, that would be awesome. I still picture Spiderman eating popcorn watching Hulk and Abomination go at it in the first time Hulk smashes Harlem
So in The Avengers, am I correct in thinking that Bruce says "Last time I was in New York, I broke Harlem" and not "Last time I was in New York, I broke it."
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Crazy Ralph wrote: DancesWithWerewolves wrote: Daebo wrote: Crazy Ralph wrote: I'm actually concerned about a potential sequel though... I mean, what works in comics doesn't always work for films, and if they try to cram in more heroes and expand the team, it's just going to give less screen time for everyone besides the big three. As much as I would love to see Pym and Wasp, I hope they don't go overboard with introducing every person who has been a member of the team from the comics. I'd much prefer that they stick with the same team and expand upon the relationships and comradery --- it seemed that by the end, these people started having a mutual respect for each other and I think they should expand that for the next one.
Wolverine and Luke Cage I'd like to see and I'm pretty sure Spiderman might join.
If Marvel gets the rights back, that would be awesome. I still picture Spiderman eating popcorn watching Hulk and Abomination go at it in the first time Hulk smashes Harlem
So in The Avengers, am I correct in thinking that Bruce says "Last time I was in New York, I broke Harlem" and not "Last time I was in New York, I broke it."
I heard Harlem both times I watched it. And I remember Harlem mentioned in TIH.
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DancesWithWerewolves wrote: Daebo wrote: KennyThaKilla wrote: dave626 wrote:
Even in the last film he wasn't "completely" in control.
The last scene in the movie kinda hints that he finally got a handle on it, which he further demonstrates with his "I'm always angry" moment in this film.
I hope he doesn't have too much of a handle on it, that would make the next Hulk movie not as fun.
I like to think his change on the aircraft was to show he doesn't always have a handle on it.
In control Hulk sucks. Let us not forget smart Hulk.
How's a ni**a gonna have guns when his fists are atomic fuckin bombs?
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DancesWithWerewolves wrote: Crazy Ralph wrote: DancesWithWerewolves wrote: Daebo wrote: Crazy Ralph wrote: I'm actually concerned about a potential sequel though... I mean, what works in comics doesn't always work for films, and if they try to cram in more heroes and expand the team, it's just going to give less screen time for everyone besides the big three. As much as I would love to see Pym and Wasp, I hope they don't go overboard with introducing every person who has been a member of the team from the comics. I'd much prefer that they stick with the same team and expand upon the relationships and comradery --- it seemed that by the end, these people started having a mutual respect for each other and I think they should expand that for the next one.
Wolverine and Luke Cage I'd like to see and I'm pretty sure Spiderman might join.
If Marvel gets the rights back, that would be awesome. I still picture Spiderman eating popcorn watching Hulk and Abomination go at it in the first time Hulk smashes Harlem
So in The Avengers, am I correct in thinking that Bruce says "Last time I was in New York, I broke Harlem" and not "Last time I was in New York, I broke it."
I heard Harlem both times I watched it. And I remember Harlem mentioned in TIH.
I heard Harlem too both times.
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Daebo wrote: DancesWithWerewolves wrote: Daebo wrote: KennyThaKilla wrote: dave626 wrote:
Even in the last film he wasn't "completely" in control.
The last scene in the movie kinda hints that he finally got a handle on it, which he further demonstrates with his "I'm always angry" moment in this film.
I hope he doesn't have too much of a handle on it, that would make the next Hulk movie not as fun.
I like to think his change on the aircraft was to show he doesn't always have a handle on it.
In control Hulk sucks. Let us not forget smart Hulk.
How's a ni**a gonna have guns when his fists are atomic fuckin bombs?
Me not smart hulk fan, with pineapple hair style...
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