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 Posted: Thu Nov 5th, 2009 05:33 pm

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Ever since I Read the Original Script of Hellraiser Bloodline I have curious about what was Her True Demonic Form. There are a lot scenes in the Original Script as well as the Finished Film where a person gets hints of it.

       But there is One scene in the Original Script where Angelique makes a Complete Demonic Transformation. The scene I'am talking about takes place after John Merchant Dreams about Having Sex with Her and Before "The Lead Cenobite" (Pinhead) kidnaps his Family.

       The scene was supposed to be where Angelique Seduces Merchant and She begins to have Orgasm and as that happens  She begins to Change to Her Demonic Form. Then as She changes Merchant notices freaks out and runs away while Angelique is in full Demonic Fury.

       I know in the Theatrical Cut there is only the Beginning of that scene in there is there more of that scene in the Workprint. If there is a longer verson of that scene in the Workprint can anybody who Owns a Copy put up Pictures or Video of that Scene.



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 Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 09:12 am

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The workprint has a longer scene but alas, not as scripted and, indeed, this logner scene makes reference tp plot aspects only in the re-cut, which also suggests it may have been adapted or incomplete. IIRC, there's no sex dream in the original version, instead he dreams of all the past sequences that were cut?

Still, better than the final cut. As you point out the scenes go : John goes to see Angelique as a odd client. Bobbi leaves Jack. Brief John/Angelique. Jack kidnapped.  John suddenly bursts in in horror.... despite NOTHING in the film suggesting anything demonic or bad has happened yet.


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 Posted: Fri Nov 6th, 2009 09:35 am

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Scarecrow wrote: The workprint has a longer scene but alas, not as scripted and, indeed, this logner scene makes reference tp plot aspects only in the re-cut, which also suggests it may have been adapted or incomplete. IIRC, there's no sex dream in the original version, instead he dreams of all the past sequences that were cut?

Still, better than the final cut. As you point out the scenes go : John goes to see Angelique as a odd client. Bobbi leaves Jack. Brief John/Angelique. Jack kidnapped.  John suddenly bursts in in horror.... despite NOTHING in the film suggesting anything demonic or bad has happened yet.


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Does the Workprint show more of Angelique in Her True Demonic Form in the scene where John Merchant is meeting with Angelique the Second Time where She Transforms in the Original Script.

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 Posted: Sat Nov 7th, 2009 10:18 am

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Nope, and even if that wasn't one of the missign scenes, the effects aren't done. I don't know how much you know but the workprint is one of the FOUR alternative versions that Yagher put together to try and appease the studio after they decided they didn't like it anymore. it is NOT the original version.


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 Posted: Mon Nov 9th, 2009 03:00 am

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I have Always hoped "Angeliques" appearance would have been a "Opening in the Hellraiser Franchise to Expand".

       I have Always thought that when Angelique went back to "The Labyrinth" that She might have a Faction of Her own Followers because some of "The Demons and Pre-Cenobites" from Her Time might still Exist.

      Remember when Channard became a "Cenobite" He could have had Faction of His own "Cenobites" seperate from "The Lead Cenobites (Pinhead)" if He did not Die in "Hellbound".

       Despite "The Labyrinth" being of Order it does have some Capitalism Ideas in it like when "The Original Chatterer" got The skin that was covering His eyes removed in a "Deleted Scene in Hellbound" as a reward or for a familiar reason".

        Here is one other thing I thought about  "Angelique in Her Pure Demon Form" does She have "Different Powers and The Strength of those Powers" compared to "The Lead Cenobites (Pinheads)" and where "The Original Demons Stronger or Weaker than The Cenobites".



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