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Re: May 12th 2020

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 8:22 pm
by Jigsaw
Jason wrote:
Jigsaw wrote:How, pray tell, would we get herd immunity without a vaccine?
Being that the virus is relatively new, I am of the mindset that we need to flatten the curve, which we've done, quarantine the elderly and high-risk folks, and open the country back up. This is the safest path to herd immunity. If by some off chance the virus does come back, it will likely be a far weaker strain than it already is.

The fact that The WHO (WORLD... HEALTH... Organization) lied about this disease should allow everyone to realize the difference between the science and the ideology involved and how corrupt it is at the top. You can't be too careful where you pull information from. People will manipulate the science because of where they stand ideologically. Even the most knowledgeable scientists.
My biologist friend doesn't buy much of that, but I appreciate the answer.

Re: May 12th 2020

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 8:22 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote:
Maybe I misread? Where you said "bitch about the liberal conspiracy." I took that as you saying it is a conspiracy that liberals said this...
yes, you misread. my point was that all we can do is complain and watch while whatever happens, based on your argument. i don't share that sentiment. but it is what you seem to feel.

Re: May 12th 2020

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 8:23 pm
by Jigsaw
Jason wrote:
Jigsaw wrote:How, pray tell, would we get herd immunity without a vaccine?
We have a flu vaccine, yet, we still have the flu. The word "vaccine" isn't a magical fix-all, either.
Just curious - how do you define "herd immunity"?

Re: May 12th 2020

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 8:24 pm
by Jason
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Jigsaw wrote:
Jason wrote:
Jigsaw wrote:How, pray tell, would we get herd immunity without a vaccine?
Being that the virus is relatively new, I am of the mindset that we need to flatten the curve, which we've done, quarantine the elderly and high-risk folks, and open the country back up. This is the safest path to herd immunity. If by some off chance the virus does come back, it will likely be a far weaker strain than it already is.

The fact that The WHO (WORLD... HEALTH... Organization) lied about this disease should allow everyone to realize the difference between the science and the ideology involved and how corrupt it is at the top. You can't be too careful where you pull information from. People will manipulate the science because of where they stand ideologically. Even the most knowledgeable scientists.
My biologist friend doesn't buy much of that, but I appreciate the answer.
This goes beyond taking a couple of courses in biology.

My infectious disease expert friends and medical professional friends do buy it. So poo poo pooey. :p

Re: May 12th 2020

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 8:25 pm
by Jigsaw
Jason wrote::|
Jigsaw wrote:
Jason wrote:
Jigsaw wrote:How, pray tell, would we get herd immunity without a vaccine?
Being that the virus is relatively new, I am of the mindset that we need to flatten the curve, which we've done, quarantine the elderly and high-risk folks, and open the country back up. This is the safest path to herd immunity. If by some off chance the virus does come back, it will likely be a far weaker strain than it already is.

The fact that The WHO (WORLD... HEALTH... Organization) lied about this disease should allow everyone to realize the difference between the science and the ideology involved and how corrupt it is at the top. You can't be too careful where you pull information from. People will manipulate the science because of where they stand ideologically. Even the most knowledgeable scientists.
My biologist friend doesn't buy much of that, but I appreciate the answer.
This goes beyond taking a couple of courses in biology.

My infectious disease expert friends and medical professional friends do buy it. So poo poo pooey. :p
Yeah, I'll stick with trusting him, I think.

Re: May 12th 2020

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 8:26 pm
by Jason
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
Maybe I misread? Where you said "bitch about the liberal conspiracy." I took that as you saying it is a conspiracy that liberals said this...
yes, you misread. my point was that all we can do is complain and watch while whatever happens, based on your argument. i don't share that sentiment. but it is what you seem to feel.
I just want the truth, yo.

And Jig, one of your favorite Nebraska songs made the Springsteen list.

Re: May 12th 2020

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 8:27 pm
by Jigsaw
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
Maybe I misread? Where you said "bitch about the liberal conspiracy." I took that as you saying it is a conspiracy that liberals said this...
yes, you misread. my point was that all we can do is complain and watch while whatever happens, based on your argument. i don't share that sentiment. but it is what you seem to feel.
I just want the truth, yo.

And Jig, one of your favorite Nebraska songs made the Springsteen list.
I will admit to being behind on that list. I meant to keep up, but I will listen to them all eventually.

Re: May 12th 2020

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 8:27 pm
by Jason
Jigsaw wrote:
Jason wrote::|
Jigsaw wrote:
Jason wrote:
Jigsaw wrote:How, pray tell, would we get herd immunity without a vaccine?
Being that the virus is relatively new, I am of the mindset that we need to flatten the curve, which we've done, quarantine the elderly and high-risk folks, and open the country back up. This is the safest path to herd immunity. If by some off chance the virus does come back, it will likely be a far weaker strain than it already is.

The fact that The WHO (WORLD... HEALTH... Organization) lied about this disease should allow everyone to realize the difference between the science and the ideology involved and how corrupt it is at the top. You can't be too careful where you pull information from. People will manipulate the science because of where they stand ideologically. Even the most knowledgeable scientists.
My biologist friend doesn't buy much of that, but I appreciate the answer.
This goes beyond taking a couple of courses in biology.

My infectious disease expert friends and medical professional friends do buy it. So poo poo pooey. :p
Yeah, I'll stick with trusting him, I think.
Nothing wrong with that. Just don't allow yourself to pursue the answers you want to be true as opposed to the answers that are, or could be true.

Re: May 12th 2020

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 8:28 pm
by Jason
Jigsaw wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
Maybe I misread? Where you said "bitch about the liberal conspiracy." I took that as you saying it is a conspiracy that liberals said this...
yes, you misread. my point was that all we can do is complain and watch while whatever happens, based on your argument. i don't share that sentiment. but it is what you seem to feel.
I just want the truth, yo.

And Jig, one of your favorite Nebraska songs made the Springsteen list.
I will admit to being behind on that list. I meant to keep up, but I will listen to them all eventually.
All gravy, in the Navy. I'm expecting the complete discography ranking of England Dan & John Ford Foley from you..

Re: May 12th 2020

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 8:30 pm
by Jigsaw
Jason wrote:
Jigsaw wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
Maybe I misread? Where you said "bitch about the liberal conspiracy." I took that as you saying it is a conspiracy that liberals said this...
yes, you misread. my point was that all we can do is complain and watch while whatever happens, based on your argument. i don't share that sentiment. but it is what you seem to feel.
I just want the truth, yo.

And Jig, one of your favorite Nebraska songs made the Springsteen list.
I will admit to being behind on that list. I meant to keep up, but I will listen to them all eventually.
All gravy, in the Navy. I'm expecting the complete discography ranking of England Dan & John Ford Foley from you..
"Gone Too Far" is definitely up there along with their more well-known songs.

Re: May 12th 2020

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 8:37 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
Maybe I misread? Where you said "bitch about the liberal conspiracy." I took that as you saying it is a conspiracy that liberals said this...
yes, you misread. my point was that all we can do is complain and watch while whatever happens, based on your argument. i don't share that sentiment. but it is what you seem to feel.
I just want the truth, yo.

And Jig, one of your favorite Nebraska songs made the Springsteen list.
there's truth, and then there is what you do with it, or what you take it to mean.

Re: May 12th 2020

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 8:45 pm
by zombie
did you get wait until dark, yet? watch it so we can talk about something more worthy. :P

Re: May 12th 2020

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 8:51 pm
by Jason
zombie wrote:did you get wait until dark, yet? watch it so we can talk about something more worthy. :P
Not yet. I rewatched Jack Reacher last night, though. Have you seen?

Re: May 12th 2020

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 8:52 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:did you get wait until dark, yet? watch it so we can talk about something more worthy. :P
Not yet. I rewatched Jack Reacher last night, though. Have you seen?
i've seen the first jack reacher, but it's been awhile. i did like it though.

Re: May 12th 2020

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 8:54 pm
by Jason
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:did you get wait until dark, yet? watch it so we can talk about something more worthy. :P
Not yet. I rewatched Jack Reacher last night, though. Have you seen?
i've seen the first jack reacher, but it's been awhile. i did like it though.
Still holds up beautifully for me.

Re: May 12th 2020

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 8:57 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:did you get wait until dark, yet? watch it so we can talk about something more worthy. :P
Not yet. I rewatched Jack Reacher last night, though. Have you seen?
i've seen the first jack reacher, but it's been awhile. i did like it though.
Still holds up beautifully for me.
it's a fairly recent film. i hope you can keep finding those. sometimes i worry, based on some of our discussions that keep coming back up. :P

Re: May 12th 2020

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 9:05 pm
by Jason
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:did you get wait until dark, yet? watch it so we can talk about something more worthy. :P
Not yet. I rewatched Jack Reacher last night, though. Have you seen?
i've seen the first jack reacher, but it's been awhile. i did like it though.
Still holds up beautifully for me.
it's a fairly recent film. i hope you can keep finding those. sometimes i worry, based on some of our discussions that keep coming back up. :P
There is no forced political nonsense. It's a movie, and I dug it.

Re: May 12th 2020

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 9:07 pm
by zombie
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:
Jason wrote:
zombie wrote:did you get wait until dark, yet? watch it so we can talk about something more worthy. :P
Not yet. I rewatched Jack Reacher last night, though. Have you seen?
i've seen the first jack reacher, but it's been awhile. i did like it though.
Still holds up beautifully for me.
it's a fairly recent film. i hope you can keep finding those. sometimes i worry, based on some of our discussions that keep coming back up. :P
There is no forced political nonsense. It's a movie, and I dug it.
awesome. it's a studio movie with a big star and you dug it. just keep looking at movies as movies first. you'll find a lot to enjoy, i suspect.

Re: May 12th 2020

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 9:16 pm
by Jason
Stop yelling at me!

Re: May 12th 2020

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 9:17 pm
by zombie
no! :P