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Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote: Your lack of self-awareness is stunning and it just sounds like you need real life friends to talk about politics with. This conversation is not just an excuse for you to get on a soapbox and dive into your personal beliefs. That isn’t what this conversation is about. Stick to the topic, stop with the tangents.

We're talking about politics in movies. You asked me to name even one transgender movie. I named three. You said I'm trying to deny their human rights. You brought it to this point.

Would you date a tranny or not?

I don’t care about your personal politics. Stop using every opportunity you see to go on a deep dive about your personal beliefs. I have zero interest in that and it’s not what this is about. You just sound like you need to rant about politics all the time, so just find some real life friends to do that with. You can keep screaming into the void about this if you want, but I won’t dignify it with an argument.

Because you have nothing. You shouldn't have dragged it to this point.

I didn’t drag it to any point, you just can’t go five minutes without screaming your personal politics at the closest person. This is an interesting topic and you couldn’t help but go on some rant that has nothing to do with what we’re discussing. Not interested.

Back on topic: you’re perfectly okay with your politics being reflected in films but the reverse bothers you. The industry has always projected liberal messages, they just seem less and less liberal over time because society always progresses.

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote: I'm just saying I wouldn't consider religion vs. science to be political. And I wouldn't consider The Exorcist to be religion vs. science, either. In the movie, Damien is both a psychologist and priest. And expressed in the movie that incidents like Reagan's tend to be psychological.

what is "science vs. religion" if not political?

It just can't be marked on the scale properly. You've got left and right, with authoritarian and libertarian measures. Science and religion have no place on that scale.

so political to you has to be liberal vs. conservative between characters within a story, rather than of the story itself?

No. You could have a religious guy and a science guy butt heads in a movie and I still wouldn't label it political.

well, okay. is pro-choice vs. pro-life political? guess which horror movie, i'm thinking of?

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote: Your lack of self-awareness is stunning and it just sounds like you need real life friends to talk about politics with. This conversation is not just an excuse for you to get on a soapbox and dive into your personal beliefs. That isn’t what this conversation is about. Stick to the topic, stop with the tangents.

We're talking about politics in movies. You asked me to name even one transgender movie. I named three. You said I'm trying to deny their human rights. You brought it to this point.

Would you date a tranny or not?

I don’t care about your personal politics. Stop using every opportunity you see to go on a deep dive about your personal beliefs. I have zero interest in that and it’s not what this is about. You just sound like you need to rant about politics all the time, so just find some real life friends to do that with. You can keep screaming into the void about this if you want, but I won’t dignify it with an argument.

Because you have nothing. You shouldn't have dragged it to this point.

I didn’t drag it to any point, you just can’t go five minutes without screaming your personal politics at the closest person. This is an interesting topic and you couldn’t help but go on some rant that has nothing to do with what we’re discussing. Not interested.

Back on topic: you’re perfectly okay with your politics being reflected in films but the reverse bothers you. The industry has always projected liberal messages, they just seem less and less liberal over time because society always progresses.

You must've missed the post in this very thread when I said I would prefer movies have NO political agenda. We were talking about it in here, and I believe it's all agreed upon unanimously that Hollywood has a leftist agenda. I brought up tranny movies, you asked me to name even one, and I named three. Then it went to shit when you said I want to deny humanity to transgender people, you weirdo.

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote: Your lack of self-awareness is stunning and it just sounds like you need real life friends to talk about politics with. This conversation is not just an excuse for you to get on a soapbox and dive into your personal beliefs. That isn’t what this conversation is about. Stick to the topic, stop with the tangents.

We're talking about politics in movies. You asked me to name even one transgender movie. I named three. You said I'm trying to deny their human rights. You brought it to this point.

Would you date a tranny or not?

I don’t care about your personal politics. Stop using every opportunity you see to go on a deep dive about your personal beliefs. I have zero interest in that and it’s not what this is about. You just sound like you need to rant about politics all the time, so just find some real life friends to do that with. You can keep screaming into the void about this if you want, but I won’t dignify it with an argument.

Because you have nothing. You shouldn't have dragged it to this point.

I didn’t drag it to any point, you just can’t go five minutes without screaming your personal politics at the closest person. This is an interesting topic and you couldn’t help but go on some rant that has nothing to do with what we’re discussing. Not interested.

Back on topic: you’re perfectly okay with your politics being reflected in films but the reverse bothers you. The industry has always projected liberal messages, they just seem less and less liberal over time because society always progresses.

You must've missed the post in this very thread when I said I would prefer movies have NO political agenda. We were talking about it in here, and I believe it's all agreed upon unanimously that Hollywood has a leftist agenda. I brought up tranny movies, you asked me to name even one, and I named three. Then it went to shit when you said I want to deny humanity to transgender people, you weirdo.

I realize it’s what you said but it isn’t what you believe. In fact it’s more likely that movies reflecting you beliefs would not be thought of as political at all, they merely subscribe to what you deem obvious reality.

I don’t care about your opinion on transgender people. It’s an example, like numerous others brought up and not expanded upon in this thread.

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote: I'm just saying I wouldn't consider religion vs. science to be political. And I wouldn't consider The Exorcist to be religion vs. science, either. In the movie, Damien is both a psychologist and priest. And expressed in the movie that incidents like Reagan's tend to be psychological.

what is "science vs. religion" if not political?

It just can't be marked on the scale properly. You've got left and right, with authoritarian and libertarian measures. Science and religion have no place on that scale.

so political to you has to be liberal vs. conservative between characters within a story, rather than of the story itself?

No. You could have a religious guy and a science guy butt heads in a movie and I still wouldn't label it political.

well, okay. is pro-choice vs. pro-life political? guess which horror movie, i'm thinking of?

Juno? :p

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote: I'm just saying I wouldn't consider religion vs. science to be political. And I wouldn't consider The Exorcist to be religion vs. science, either. In the movie, Damien is both a psychologist and priest. And expressed in the movie that incidents like Reagan's tend to be psychological.

what is "science vs. religion" if not political?

It just can't be marked on the scale properly. You've got left and right, with authoritarian and libertarian measures. Science and religion have no place on that scale.

so political to you has to be liberal vs. conservative between characters within a story, rather than of the story itself?

No. You could have a religious guy and a science guy butt heads in a movie and I still wouldn't label it political.

well, okay. is pro-choice vs. pro-life political? guess which horror movie, i'm thinking of?

Juno? :p

no, that was about adoption. not abortion.

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote: Your lack of self-awareness is stunning and it just sounds like you need real life friends to talk about politics with. This conversation is not just an excuse for you to get on a soapbox and dive into your personal beliefs. That isn’t what this conversation is about. Stick to the topic, stop with the tangents.

We're talking about politics in movies. You asked me to name even one transgender movie. I named three. You said I'm trying to deny their human rights. You brought it to this point.

Would you date a tranny or not?

I don’t care about your personal politics. Stop using every opportunity you see to go on a deep dive about your personal beliefs. I have zero interest in that and it’s not what this is about. You just sound like you need to rant about politics all the time, so just find some real life friends to do that with. You can keep screaming into the void about this if you want, but I won’t dignify it with an argument.

Because you have nothing. You shouldn't have dragged it to this point.

I didn’t drag it to any point, you just can’t go five minutes without screaming your personal politics at the closest person. This is an interesting topic and you couldn’t help but go on some rant that has nothing to do with what we’re discussing. Not interested.

Back on topic: you’re perfectly okay with your politics being reflected in films but the reverse bothers you. The industry has always projected liberal messages, they just seem less and less liberal over time because society always progresses.

You must've missed the post in this very thread when I said I would prefer movies have NO political agenda. We were talking about it in here, and I believe it's all agreed upon unanimously that Hollywood has a leftist agenda. I brought up tranny movies, you asked me to name even one, and I named three. Then it went to shit when you said I want to deny humanity to transgender people, you weirdo.

I realize it’s what you said but it isn’t what you believe. In fact it’s more likely that movies reflecting you beliefs would not be thought of as political at all, they merely subscribe to what you deem obvious reality.

I don’t care about your opinion on transgender people. It’s an example, like numerous others brought up and not expanded upon in this thread.

It is what I believe. While it would certainly be refreshing to see a one-sided movie shitting on liberals all day long, I would tire of those movies quickly and rather see a story told without injecting political slime.

I'm not gonna let you label me something I'm not. Transgenderism should not be normalized, and that is in no way denying them basic human rights.

zombie wrote:i still say you can enjoy a film that has some sort of message. political, social, ideological. however you want to label it. it's still a message. and we've all enjoyed plenty that do. i hope that you can still find enough today, to enjoy. cause i still am.

zombie wrote:i still say you can enjoy a film that has some sort of message. political, social, ideological. however you want to label it. it's still a message. and we've all enjoyed plenty that do. i hope that you can still find enough today, to enjoy. cause i still am.

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote: I'm just saying I wouldn't consider religion vs. science to be political. And I wouldn't consider The Exorcist to be religion vs. science, either. In the movie, Damien is both a psychologist and priest. And expressed in the movie that incidents like Reagan's tend to be psychological.

what is "science vs. religion" if not political?

It just can't be marked on the scale properly. You've got left and right, with authoritarian and libertarian measures. Science and religion have no place on that scale.

so political to you has to be liberal vs. conservative between characters within a story, rather than of the story itself?

No. You could have a religious guy and a science guy butt heads in a movie and I still wouldn't label it political.

well, okay. is pro-choice vs. pro-life political? guess which horror movie, i'm thinking of?

Juno? :p

no, that was about adoption. not abortion.

She considered abortion throughout the movie until she ultimately decided for adoption. *spoiler alert*

Sorry to anyone who was dying to see Juno. :p

Headhunter wrote:

zombie wrote:i still say you can enjoy a film that has some sort of message. political, social, ideological. however you want to label it. it's still a message. and we've all enjoyed plenty that do. i hope that you can still find enough today, to enjoy. cause i still am.

And you can enjoy movies without ever caring about any of that stuff. If you’re politically charged 24/7, it’s going to make anything harder to enjoy because politics is inherently negative.

Headhunter wrote:

zombie wrote:i still say you can enjoy a film that has some sort of message. political, social, ideological. however you want to label it. it's still a message. and we've all enjoyed plenty that do. i hope that you can still find enough today, to enjoy. cause i still am.

And you can enjoy movies without ever caring about any of that stuff. If you’re politically charged 24/7, it’s going to make anything harder to enjoy because politics is inherently negative.

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

zombie wrote:i still say you can enjoy a film that has some sort of message. political, social, ideological. however you want to label it. it's still a message. and we've all enjoyed plenty that do. i hope that you can still find enough today, to enjoy. cause i still am.

And you can enjoy movies without ever caring about any of that stuff. If you’re politically charged 24/7, it’s going to make anything harder to enjoy because politics is inherently negative.

Correct. Let's not inject them in the vast majority of film, anymore.

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote: I'm just saying I wouldn't consider religion vs. science to be political. And I wouldn't consider The Exorcist to be religion vs. science, either. In the movie, Damien is both a psychologist and priest. And expressed in the movie that incidents like Reagan's tend to be psychological.

what is "science vs. religion" if not political?

It just can't be marked on the scale properly. You've got left and right, with authoritarian and libertarian measures. Science and religion have no place on that scale.

so political to you has to be liberal vs. conservative between characters within a story, rather than of the story itself?

No. You could have a religious guy and a science guy butt heads in a movie and I still wouldn't label it political.

well, okay. is pro-choice vs. pro-life political? guess which horror movie, i'm thinking of?

Juno? :p

no, that was about adoption. not abortion.

She considered abortion throughout the movie until she ultimately decided for adoption. *spoiler alert*

Sorry to anyone who was dying to see Juno. :p

i'll have to see it again, but a big part of the movie was meeting the family for her child. and compatibility and such.

still it's not horror. if you don't want to acknowledge the one, i was really thinking about. you can pass it off as elmstreet 5: dream child. p

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:i still say you can enjoy a film that has some sort of message. political, social, ideological. however you want to label it. it's still a message. and we've all enjoyed plenty that do. i hope that you can still find enough today, to enjoy. cause i still am.

I'm still sifting through barrels of superhero movies and kiddy flicks to find anything relevant. Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was aces.

Headhunter wrote:

Jason wrote:

Headhunter wrote:

zombie wrote:i still say you can enjoy a film that has some sort of message. political, social, ideological. however you want to label it. it's still a message. and we've all enjoyed plenty that do. i hope that you can still find enough today, to enjoy. cause i still am.

And you can enjoy movies without ever caring about any of that stuff. If you’re politically charged 24/7, it’s going to make anything harder to enjoy because politics is inherently negative.

Correct. Let's not inject them in the vast majority of film, anymore.

Nope, that’s on you and your inability to compartmentalize. Movies project liberal messaging, always have. If you can’t handle it, your personal investment in politics is too high.

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote: I'm just saying I wouldn't consider religion vs. science to be political. And I wouldn't consider The Exorcist to be religion vs. science, either. In the movie, Damien is both a psychologist and priest. And expressed in the movie that incidents like Reagan's tend to be psychological.

what is "science vs. religion" if not political?

It just can't be marked on the scale properly. You've got left and right, with authoritarian and libertarian measures. Science and religion have no place on that scale.

so political to you has to be liberal vs. conservative between characters within a story, rather than of the story itself?

No. You could have a religious guy and a science guy butt heads in a movie and I still wouldn't label it political.

well, okay. is pro-choice vs. pro-life political? guess which horror movie, i'm thinking of?

Juno? :p

no, that was about adoption. not abortion.

She considered abortion throughout the movie until she ultimately decided for adoption. *spoiler alert*

Sorry to anyone who was dying to see Juno. :p

i'll have to see it again, but a big part of the movie was meeting the family for her child. and compatibility and such.

still it's not horror. if you don't want to acknowledge the one, i was really thinking about. you can pass it off as elmstreet 5: dream child. p

I never got a political vibe from Dream Child.

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote:

zombie wrote:

Jason wrote: I'm just saying I wouldn't consider religion vs. science to be political. And I wouldn't consider The Exorcist to be religion vs. science, either. In the movie, Damien is both a psychologist and priest. And expressed in the movie that incidents like Reagan's tend to be psychological.

what is "science vs. religion" if not political?

It just can't be marked on the scale properly. You've got left and right, with authoritarian and libertarian measures. Science and religion have no place on that scale.

so political to you has to be liberal vs. conservative between characters within a story, rather than of the story itself?

No. You could have a religious guy and a science guy butt heads in a movie and I still wouldn't label it political.

well, okay. is pro-choice vs. pro-life political? guess which horror movie, i'm thinking of?

Juno? :p

no, that was about adoption. not abortion.

She considered abortion throughout the movie until she ultimately decided for adoption. *spoiler alert*

Sorry to anyone who was dying to see Juno. :p

i'll have to see it again, but a big part of the movie was meeting the family for her child. and compatibility and such.

still it's not horror. if you don't want to acknowledge the one, i was really thinking about. you can pass it off as elmstreet 5: dream child. p

I never got a political vibe from Dream Child.

cause you just enjoyed the movie as a movie, as entertainment. awesome! that's what i was looking for, in this whole conversation.